The saga continues. In another comment on another of my blogs, the following was posted by Raven....
Ahhh...Wreckless ..the racist liberal..(now there's an oxymoron for ye!) ...yes, I see you did manage to pluck up some courage to squeak a comment, after I made mention of your retreat from my blog and the furor you provoked among my readers.....too bad it came one week too late!
So, you don't like 'quid pro quo' hmm? Please don't expect me to rise to your building up straw men, I don't have the inclination to spend the time to hold your hand while you take your baby steps in white consciousness...I don't deem it worthy of my time to discuss the Yes/No vote, the De Klerk conspiracy, or anything else for that matter. I'm playing with you because I don't want to bully you, and besides, its extremely difficult to take you seriously most of the time....all your contradictions, flimsy arguments and intellectual fumbling.
Hold my hand? Bully me? Remember Raven, I am still here in South AFrica, facing and working through the reality of life under a black government. I am not the one who chose to run, and spend my life slating my mother country from afar on some blog page.
As for what argument this exactly is, I replied to your cringe fest of comments relating to one of my posts, and readers pointing out your liberal delusions and blind optimism, remember? You subverted it into a different issue, because my analogy exposed your hypocrisy.
You may believe me to be a hypocrite - believe what you want. I still maintain that the bloody Ozzie has no place to comment on my country - yes, I said my country - he should keep to his own back yard. I still think he has no place to comment - but you will defend him, because he feeds your specific cause - that is to post anything that slates South Africa - highlights the downfalls, and inefficiencies of the African leadership.
You will happily attempt to assassinate someone's character, but you don't possess the where withall to back up or defend a word you said, but rush off to your own blog to throw your toys out the cot.
No character assassinations - just a basic comment on his being out of place. I still think he was. Do we post comments about the conditions that the Abo's live in in OZ today? No, and why not, cause it's got nothing to do with us.....
You have nothing really of value to defend yourself with..You are undecided and ill informed, and could only benefit greatly from participation in debate on my forum. A lot of what you sprout is the shyt you suck up from the trash media - nothing you say is original, you merely parrot unthinkingly and uncritically what has been placed in your vacuous skull.
I don't have to defend myself - I say what I want / believe because I can and / or want to. It's my personal opinion, and not you, or anyone else can tell me I can't. Short of deleting any comments I make, (there shouldn't be anymore.....) there is no censorship on me. Ill informed - hey, you are the one posting Nazi style comments from way over the ocean. Where do you get your information. Mine is from the ground - I am here - I live it - breathe it - discuss it everyday with people from all walks of life.
"shyt you suck up from the trash media - nothing you say is original,"
This is rich coming from someone who cuts and pastes everything they post from trash media! There is nothing on your blog which comes from you - your personal information gagthered on the ground. EVERYTHING you post is pilfered!!!!!
Furthermore, your risible attempts to normalise major defects in the society you live in, simply supports the anti conceptual mentality of your narrow worldview. You are like an alcoholic in denial. You're welcome to your masochistic guilt trips, just as I am in pointing out the absence of logic from your silly school boy style arguments.
Normalising defects in this society is our way of coping with it. The same occurs in all areas of the world where there may be situations of conflict. An alcoholic in denial? Interesting. Are you a Nazi out of uniform? A wannabee in Europe? An opinionated hands opper with no real reason for running other than you were shit scared of the possible reprisals? School boy style comments - maybe so - I post / comment from the heart - I don't try to impress anyone with fancy words, debates, language. I am what I am and proud to be so.
So, despite the fact that I consider your sporadic outbursts and insults (which is more than likely stress induced confusion), as offensive, I still urge you to drop your attitude and get with the program, for the sake of your family who look up to you for direction and leadership..especially your young, impressionable sons.
Drop my attitude? Get with the program? mmmmm... Interesting. And what program would that be? Your Nazi style propaganda spreading - running down a country you no longer live in... nah, don't hink so. It's easier just to stop reading you blog. My family look at me for direction and support. But, they are not ignorant, and are well educated. My boys know their dad is a racist, and will die as one. They also know that I know whats right and wrong, and that I love my country, but will leave here in the event a second Zimbabwe comes to bear. Contradictions and conflicts? Maybe, but hey, thats me.
Times are pretty urgent, and despite what you might think about your fellow white countrymen in the diaspora, they are right thinking white brethren who have the best interests of their own white people back in SA at heart.
I don't believe you. If the runaways had any interest in South Africa they would be here, trying to make a difference. Instead, there are countless of blogs like yours around, that choose to show only the bad that comes out of here. You thrive on your own crap, and continue to spread this as a means to defend your reason for leaving in the first place. The white people back in SA are doing it together - mental support from outside is useless to us!
None of them are self loathers and lily livered apologists, you can be sure, and they are White South Africa's strongest, if not only real allies. Do you have any idea how many of them are out of the country because they face serious trouble being in SA? Do you know how many of them are sitting in the sandbox honing their shooting skills?
No, they are ex NP voters, who took their money and ran in fear!!!! Face serious trouble if they stayed here? Crap - only in their minds - don't make apology for runaways - like you they just did because they could...
They contribute not only financially in support of people back home, but also in exsposing the ANC for what they are, and head up the dissemation of correct information in a battle against anti white propaganda that has been unleashed on white South African citizens. Nothing like word of mouth from real life witnesses!
Contribute financially? Is that so? Is that why there are 10 times as many poor white in SA today than there were 5 years ago? Why day after day people are losing their homes, cars, jobs... Everyone knows what the ANC are - we don't need people from outside to tell us. And as for the international media, they only print what they want to anyway - and as long as Mandela is alive I don't think too much "bad" news will be posted, except for the starkly obvious like corruption claims, xenophobia.... but things will change. Real life witnesses - who? you all who haven't lived here for the past 5 - 10 - 15 years? Yea right!
Don't get smug because you think you are on moral high ground for still being in the country, I especially consider people who have the option to leave, but choose to stay at the risk of serious harm to their families, careless and foolish in the extreme.
You would - because your pride sits in your back pocket - and your self respect was "x'ed" onto the last ballot paper when you sold out my country!
Not to mention that not everyone has lost their pride that they will accept living under the K4's boot out of choice not necessity, terrorized and marginlized, all while financing that very terrorist regime who are their tormentors. Neither are some people prepared to work their guts out to carry the burden of millions of unemployed, unskilled, lazy, militant cretin ANC supporters with their hard earned white taxes.
Not to mention that they were really scared shitless of the expected back lash - and that they might have to say, Yes sir to a black boss one day, and that heaven forbid, they might even have a black neighbor. The reality is, they are hands oppers, and as far as I am concerned have no more claim on this country or it's resources.
So you can have a final little rant on this comment. I will not bother to reply anymore to your pathetic drivel, it's a waste of time, and like beating up on a paraplegic.
My final rant is done. I do not expect any further comment from you, as I expect that you by now accept that as a runaway / handsopper you in fact have no right to make comments - just like the Ozzie dude you defended so dearly... Like beating up a paraplegic you say, yup, you would know... a common pastime for you wannabees. Whilst we were defending the country, you were doing just that - beating up paraplegics.
Been nice knowing you - now go away - I have a country to defend - for MY family!
This discussion is now closed. It's fucking tiring stuff......
Salagatle!
5 comments:
I by chance came onto this debate by following your first comments on SAS. It has been quite entertaining, however for the life of me I cannot understand why the Raven bothers to give you the time of day sir, you being so ill informed it is laughable. What is even more laughable is watching you having your arse kicked all over your own blog by a woman. No wonder you tell her to 'go away' the 'discussion is closed', I bet it's tiring stuff for you, she does it every day and has been for some time, however you are quite clearly a novice.
Hilariouse!
Grow a back bone and stand by your original statements you twat. You were the one who first started this on HER blog. Back up your claim that there is a 'growing intelligent population'
who will 'vote with their heads' to solve the problems in your country the 'African way'. I nearly fell off my chair laughing at that, I have never read such a load of rubbish in my life.
I would recommend the Raven not rise to your provoctions, as any form of debate is clearly wasted on you.
Good luck defending your country against 40 million blacks who hate you.
Red Robbie, What is the Raven a woman? Hmmmmf, never knew!
"Back up your claim that there is a 'growing intelligent population'
who will 'vote with their heads' to solve the problems in your country the 'African way'. I nearly fell off my chair laughing at that, I have never read such a load of rubbish in my life."
I happen to work in COMPANY THAT EMPLOYS A LOT OF EDYCATED (DEGREED) Africans. I can tell you in no uncertain terms, these are people who lknow what a fuck up the ANC and Mbeki are. These are people who like money, real capitalists, and who know that the current status is not good for the economy, and / or their pockets.
Don't get me wrong, I hate them anyway, but i am not beyond looking past my racism and seeing things for what they are.
I also have no problem being taken to task by a woman - she is after all my equal in standing. Maybe u do?
Lastly, if you are in South Africa - you need to speak to more peole - get a real understanding of how these people think. If, on the other hand, you are a runaway - get the fuck off my blog.
Salagatle!
Mmmmm! I wonder who this Red Robbie person is? Male, female? Is it someone we know sort of playing a trick on you? Hard to tell. I am not even sure what the fuss is all about. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions. The whole thing is a question of perception. Is the glass half empty of half full? Is SA worth staying in or leaving? I left because I was scared for my kids and I have no merit because I had a Canadian passeport. I was there for 10 years and I was really attached to the place and had made many friends. When I returned to Canada I was homesick for SA for a good while so I can imagine how extremely difficult it would be for a native to leave. If it wasn't for the crime and the black racism (BEE, etc..) I would still be there. Previously to SA I was living in Australia (Sidney). It was nice but boring. I did not care for Aussies that much. They are extremely racists. I felt bad for the abo's. SA is 100 times more beautiful and interesting but its the damn political climate and crime rate.
Dark Raven Said...."blah blah blah"
Wreckless Said..."blah blah blah"
Dark raven " Blah blah Blah..."
And eventualy
Wreckless stopped posting.
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